RE: [GrizHFMinimill] Newbie w/questions



The metal lathe was so big and awkward they passed on getting it out of the guys basement!

All this haul of stuff came from 100 miles away. And was in a guys basement. I don't think he really used any of it according to the auctioneer, who I have known for years.

 

I already have a band saw, a $1200 Jet I bought right after I retired in 2012. Have used it a lot. Also a Lincoln wire welder w/aluminum spool gun bought in '97. We, my son and I, built several sets of ½ fenders for my Peterbilt and KW over the years, light bars, tool boxes, deck plates etc.

Just last month, he built a 4' snow bucket for a Cub Cadet I restored las year w/a DanCo loader.

Always had a fellow here in town do any bending and machining but he retired and closed up shop a few years back.

 

Thanks again for the headsup.

 

From: GrizHFMinimill@yahoogroups.com [mailto:GrizHFMinimill@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:37 PM
To: GrizHFMinimill@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [GrizHFMinimill] Newbie w/questions

 

 

If you need to go single phase, besides getting a converter already mentioned, you may just be able to get another motor.  Machines tend to use fairly standard motor sizes with standard mounting methods.

 

The mill has a power feed for the table that looks like an aftermarket add-on – that's a very nice addition.  Good looking and properly sized vise shows in one of the photos AND it is a "Kurt" (I think I mistakingly recommended "Kurta" previously).  Also it looks like a small tilting vise is there.

 

For the other equipment, it looks like a very good grinder on the floor stand – Baldor is a good brand.  Hard to tell the size, but I think larger than the common 6 inch wheels.  Maybe it is 8 inch.  But they also make larger than that, too.

 

The band saw is the typical smallish variety but usually just fine for home shops and occasional use.  If doing metal work, these are extremely handy.  The blade speed is much slower than in a wood bandsaw.  The usual imported ones are a bit cheesy, but work.  Don't know about the Delta.  There's a good chance it takes a 64 1/ 2 inch blade which I think is pretty standard.  Best to get a medium to high quality "bi-metal" blade.

 

One pretty serious air compressor and one smaller one.  This (as in the nice grinder) must be from an estate where somebody actually did some things fairly seriously

 

And then there are some other grinder machines that are the sort for grinding chisels and such but also very useful for lathe tool bits, or a tool bit to go into a fly cutter.  Although a regular grinder is really all you need.

 

I see there is a parallel set there and arguably it goes with the milling machine because that's what they are used with.  They are the things wrapped in the oiled paper in the red molded case.  Don't know the brand.  Virtually all such tooling is available as made in China which can is usually the lowest quality.  Taiwan or Italy, a bit better quality.  Or the U.S. or European nations which can be very high quality.  Price differential can be perhaps 2 to 1 up to maybe 10 to 1.  A home shop can usually get by on the lower priced items.  But for drills and taps and end mills and such, it can be better to get higher quality items.

 

The box with all the little rectangular pieces of metal of all sizes is a gage block set.  This is used for checking tools and also sometimes for making set ups.  It looks very old and perhaps not in good condition.  When in good condition, the surfaces are so flat that you "wring" blocks together and they stick from the molecular attraction.  Most amateur machinists don't have a set, but they can be a "nice to have".

 

The photo just previous to the gage blocks is a machinist level.  It is vastly more precise than a regular level.  Used for leveling machines.  There is often much debate about that, especially with things like stubby little mini-lathes..  But for most machines, and especially larger ones, castings are usually designed stronger in the direction that is supposed to be perpendicular to gravitational pull – so the machine should be set up to respect that.  (You will always get the "but machines on board a ship can't stay level" which is true.  But that can't be helped and does NOT mean leveling is otherwise unimportant.)

 

Pretty interesting mix of stuff.  It looks like the main focus was woodworking, but then there are the machinist tools, the mill, and the welders.  The absence of a metal lathe seems conspicuous because is usually the most basic machine tool to start with.

 

Chuck K.

 

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From: 'David Schwandt' finsruskw@iowatelecom.net [GrizHFMinimill]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 7:14 PM
To: GrizHFMinimill@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [GrizHFMinimill] Newbie w/questions

 

 

Thank you!

That's the plan at present.

However there are other things on the auction I probably should be thinking about getting even I don't wind up w/the mill.

I have a lot to learn that's for sure.

Here's a link to the auction w/pic's. the 1st 7 are of the mill and what all goes with it.

https://www.harrylahrauctions.com/march-16th-auction.html

Small town setup, only about a block from my house.

I've been down there several times checking things out as I learn more about stuff I may need.

 

From: GrizHFMinimill@yahoogroups.com [mailto:GrizHFMinimill@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 7:06 PM
To: GrizHFMinimill@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [GrizHFMinimill] Newbie w/questions

 

 

        Do you realize that part # is for a 3phase machine ?  if ya don't have 3phase ya will need some kind of single to 3phase converter . lookin on Grizzlys parts pace there arn't alot of parts available . so condition is everything

        when ya cant get parts , if it were me unless it go's real cheap I'd keep lookin

        animal

On 3/11/2019 2:29 PM, finsruskw@iowatelecom.net [GrizHFMinimill] wrote:

 

Hello!

Newbie here from Iowa. Retired trucker

Thinking of bidding on a Grizzly G9748 that will be on an auction here on Sat 3/16

I know next to nothing about machining but wish to learn.

A clamping kit, drill chuck and a few collets come with it and that's about all.

Is this machine fit the description "mini mill" and am Iin the correct family here if I purchase this?

About what would something like this be worth?

I expect it will go $1200-1400 $ ??? Which in my case, I'd sooner buy new and will pass.

I restore old garden tractors.

What  minimal tooling will I need to cut slots and perhaps resurface aluminum heads for single cylinder Kohler engines. as I restore old garden tractors.

Any help you folks could offer would be greatly appreciated.

I have already ordered the book "Machining for Dummies"!! insert smiley face (here)

 

Thanks!!

 

 



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