[GrizHFMinimill] Re: Counterweight Arrangement

That's a completely different animal. It's a 650lb unit and the head weighs over 200. And, it's got a actuating quill which is usually the only thing that moves when you're working with that one. Ours are really different and way wimpy in comparison. There's a yahoo group for your mill/drill -- commonly referred to as a "Rong Fu Clone":
http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/mill_drill/?v=1&t=directory&ch=web&pub=groups&sec=dir&slk=12

I always wanted one, but I didn't want to mess around with anything that big. It's a great mill. I think it's the mill of choice for the home gunsmithing crowd.

--- In GrizHFMinimill@yahoogroups.com, "Oliver Fick" <ofick@...> wrote:
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> I'm of the opinion that we are not talking about similar mills. Would
> someone take a look at Grizzly's site and the specs on the small mill-drill
> and tell me if I'm off base discussing it in this group?
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> On 1/20/2012 5:49 PM, Oliver Fick wrote:
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> The head itself weighs about 160 lbs so unless you have a mechanical
> advantage with a pulley arrangement, this is what the joist would see.
> Maybe I'm missing something?
>
> The HF 44991 X2 mini-mill
> <http://www.harborfreight.com/two-speed-variable-bench-mill-drill-machine-44
> 991.html> has a total shipping weight listed as 138 lbs. Mine came in a
> wooden crate that I picked up a the store and brought home myself at what
> felt to be about that weight. The X2 mill head weighs in roughly around 35 -
> 40 lbs.
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> Little Machine Shop's Air <http://lmscnc.com/2258> Spring Conversion Kit
> (currently on sale for $34.95) advertises the air spring details as per this
> sentence:
> "This air spring has about 35 pounds of force. This is not enough to totally
> support the head, but it is a heck of a lot more support than the torsion
> arm provides."
>
> So assuming their estimate of 35 lbs of force is about correct, then the
> head must be somewhat heavier than that, but not by a whole lot. I'd bet 40
> lbs is a mighty close guess.
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> Maybe someone with a bathroom scale will set their X2 mill head on it and
> report back with what it weighs. In a perfect world, one member with an R8
> spindle and another with an MT3 spindle would each do this, juts to see if
> there is enough difference to matter. :-)
>
> I suspect a guesstimate of 160 lbs just for the head comes from someone
> with a much larger milling machine, seeing as that is more than the entire
> X2 mini-mill! :-) I do remember seeing a photo of a little X2 mini-mill
> sitting comfortably on the X/Y table of a much larger milling machine, but I
> don't remember where that was.... RH or something?
>
> Cheers,
> John Z.
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