Not sure why there is so much resistance by older members ( I'm 69) to switching to Facebook. It's a great tool for a user friendly forum. All the chatter about loss of privacy and having to create a page with lots of personal information is a myth. You can make your profile totally Anonymous if you wish. You don't even need to use your real name.
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 7:54 AM <GrizHFMinimill@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:26 am (PDT) . Posted by:
tmy@pacbell.net
It appears that archive.org is backing up Yahoo groups, but private groups require an invitation to join the group. That site appears to have a snapshot of files from 2017, but it just contains a snapshot of some of the files area. Info at the link below.
https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Yahoo!_Groups https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Yahoo!_Groups
I'd really like to thank Harvey & Barry for the many years of effort running this group. They did a great job keeping things civil and useful. I hope they will at least get it uploaded to archive.org to preserve the knowledge they've provided and collected.
As a recently retired engineer, I'm going to encourage them to "pass the torch" and let someone else run the group if there is enough interest, or let it go if not, unless they really want to stay chained to the responsibility.
I'd also like to thank all the other regular contributors for their input to the group.
My "introduction" to the group:
This is my first & last post - I've been subscribed for many years and occasionally read the messages on the few weekends when I wasn't working 12-14 hour days 6 days a week, but mostly working too much overtime for 33 years as an aerospace software & hardware engineer and manager at a single company, including as lead/responsible engineer on the solid state data recorder for the Cassini mission to Saturn and Chandra Telescope, and a number of other challenging assignments in test software and high performance computing and networking.
I retired 3 years ago, a week before finding out I'd need to provide care for a parent with advanced cancer & heart problems, as that continues, I am also doing some contracting part-time while getting my retirement home & shop built.
I've got an X1, two X2, and one X3 mill all still in the shipping crates, mini-lathe, and a big old craftsman lathe that needs to be refurbished. I've also got a couple welders and saws, several 3D printers that I did get to use quite a bit. I recently added a CO2 LASER engraver and a fiber LASER engraver to my tool set. For metal engraving/marking and even cutting thin materials the 30W Fiber Laser is an amazing tool - I recently drilled a 500x500 grid of 0.1mm holes every 0.25mm in thin aluminum (soda can) - just to see what it would do. It also does very good deep engraving in Brass, and I often engrave pet ID Tags in Aluminum, Stainless, and Brass.
I'd hoped that when I retired I'd be able to access this group as I start getting the machines online. Now, many of the issues are covered (sometimes incorrectly) in YouTube videos and a few other sites, but I still consider this group a great resource.
Thanks again.
marc
Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:01 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Harvey white" madyn48
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On 10/27/2019 2:56 AM, wmrmeyers@yahoo.com [GrizHFMinimill] wrote:
>
> Thanks, Harvey! I've been a member here for several years, under one
> email address or another, though I don't actually have a SIEG
> mini-mill. My mini-mill is an Atlas horizontal mill. Larger than the
> SIEG, but not really large, for old American iron. A lot of the stuff
> you do on the Chinese mill can also be done on the Atlas,just rotated
> 90 degrees, and limited to an MT2 spindle for tooling.
>
Looks like a horizontal X1, almost. In this game, size does matter.
However, you can do lots of good things.
> Barry seems to have decided to abandon the group. Do YOU mind if I
> save as much as I can on the groups.io Mini-Mills group I started?
>
I've recommended that everyone download and archive as much as possible
before the content is moved. I can't see a problem there.
The difficulty with the groups.io move is simple enough. (I'm
elaborating for the benefit of anyone joining the discussion late).
Firstly, nothing stops you from making a basic (or better) group on
groups.io. Other than the basic group, they'll want money per year.
200 dollars or so for the "premium" group (next level up).
Many people have moved groups from yahoo to groups.io. However, to have
the entire group moved, with archives, memberships and the like, and
seamlessly, you'd want groups.io to do it. Their regulations state that
any group so moved must be a premium group for a year. That says 200
dollars up front, and now. Only the owner can give such permission.
> There are 28 of your members that have joined me there to try to make
> this work, so far. I understand being tired of something, and wanting
> to move on to other things, but there are people here like myself who
> value the work you guys did. I'm a long way from Tacoma, so I took a
> class in machining here in Oklahoma City, started about 4-1/2 years
> ago. I'm not likely to do this long enough to become a professional,
> but this and other groups like it kept me going through some pretty
> bad times, and I'd really like to keep it going. I'm not Barry, I'm
> not a professional machinist, but I've been keeping some other groups
> going at least limping along, and in a couple of cases, doing OK.
>
Oh, I'm not a professional machinist either. No worries about that.
> And I'm not burned out on managing a group yet. I've also been a
> member of some groups that lost their owner, mostly the mini-lathe
> groups owned by JW Early, who died unexpectedly a few years back.
>
I was a member of the mini-lathe groups as well, but I left when it got
too political and too little lathe.
> The new group I started at https://groups.io/g/Mini-Mills already has
> two owners, including myself, and will shortly have at least a couple
> of moderators as well, so no one has to burn out trying to keep the
> group going.
>
>
Because of what happened when JWE died, I see having two owners as a
reasonable thing. From personal experience, more than one moderator
also tends to split the workload, although it's never been too much.
Mostly deleting the Chinese language spam and "your account has been
suspended, sign in here...." scams.
From what I understand of the way all this works, anybody can download,
copy, etc any material as needed from the archives (although you must be
a member). The owner needs give permission only for the group move with
the membership and data intact.
Harvey
> Bill in OKC
>
James R. Starkey aka. Jimmy
Naperville, Illinois USA (SW of Chicago)
"Don't waste my time and I'll return the favor." My Grandfather 1898-1967
Naperville, Illinois USA (SW of Chicago)
"Don't waste my time and I'll return the favor." My Grandfather 1898-1967
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